Friday, December 18, 2009

How Many Times Should You Try IVF Before Giving Up?

Because of the emotional, physical, and financial toll exacted by IVF, it is preferable that a couple undertake the process with the mindset that they will be in it for more than one attempt. If a couple can only afford one treatment cycle, IVF may not be the right course of action. Recall that on average, with conventional IVF, there is only about one chance in three that it will result in a live birth, and there is a tremendous letdown if it fails. It is thus unreasonable to undergo IVF with the attitude that "if it doesn't work the first time, we're giving up." In vitro fertilization is a gamble even in the best of circumstances.

Statistically speaking, a woman under 40 years of age, using her own eggs, having selected a good IVF program is likely to have a better than 70% chance of having a baby within three completed attempts - provided that she has adequate ovarian reserve, (the ability to producing several follicles/eggs in response to gonadotropin stimulation), has a fertile male partner (or sperm donor sperm) with access to motile sperm, and has a normal and receptive uterus capable of developing an “adequate” uterine lining. Women of 39-43 years of age who meet the same criteria, will likely have about half that chance (35%- 40%).

When the most “competent” embryos are selected for transfer using a new genetic process (introduced into the clinical arena by SIRM in 2005), known as comparative genomic hybridization (CGH), the birth rate per single, completed IVF cycle is likely to exceed 60% (regardless of the age of the egg provider) and, more than 85% within three such attempts.

Unfortunately, there will inevitably always be some women/couples who in spite of best effort at conventional IVF will unfortunately remain childless. In my considered opinion, it rarely advisable to undergo more than three IVF attempts using the same approach each time. There is of course one important caveat: in women where the reason for repeated IVF failure is finally uncovered, it would indeed be justifiable (assuming there are sufficient emotional, physical and financial resources) to continue trying, using a defined and new approach that addresses the reason for prior failures. Simply stated, “the time to stop trying is when there is no remediable explanation for repeated failure to achieve a viable pregnancy”.

One very interesting case comes to mind. It happened a few years back when I consulted with a 42 year old Australian patient (she happened to also be a physician) who had undergone 22 prior failed attempts at IVF elsewhere. After determining that the reason for prior failures (at least in part) was due to a hitherto unrecognized immunologic implantation dysfunction (IID), I took her through yet another IVF attempt using selective immunotherapy. She conceived (using her own eggs) and went on to have a healthy baby boy. This case serves to point out that the time to stop doing IVF should not always be based on the number of prior failed attempts alone.

When conventional IVF (with or without egg donation and/or CGH embryo selection) fails to yield a successful outcome, other options such as ovum donation, IVF surrogacy, or adoption should be considered.

Although it is the right of any healthy women who has a uterus and is capable of producing even one follicle/egg to have the right to decide on doing IVF using her own eggs, given the very low success rate after 43 years of age (less than 10% per attempt and under 25% within 3 tries) it is my opinion that women over 43 years should be advised to rather do egg donor IVF. Here, regardless of the age of the embryo recipient, the IVF birth rate after a single attempt is about 60% - and better than 80% within three IVF attempts.

Couples who choose to undergo IVF should be encouraged to view the entire procedure with guarded optimism, but nevertheless must be emotionally prepared to deal with the ever‑present possibility of failure. It is important for IVF patients to be made to realize from the outset that an inability to become pregnant should never be considered a reflection on them as individuals.

6 comments:

  1. Dr. Sher,

    Through my internet research I have found you to be a reprooductive endocrinologist who is knowlegable, trustworthy, and compassionate. I just signed up to receive a consultation on your website. I want to know what IVF protocol you feel is the most aggressive protocol for someone who is running out of time. My RE said that the micro-dose lupron flare portocol that he has me on is the best he has to offer. I wonder if he is conservative at times. Although, my RE is very intelligent he has many other responsibilities and cannot give me the individualized attention that I suspect you provide your patients. My RE is at a university setting. Here is my history in a nutshell. I am 39 and I have an elevated FSH level of 14. I have had 2 prior IVF attempts without success. (I had previously tried IUI's without success too - however, my husband's semen samples with the IUI's were inadequate to the level of 2.5 million after washing on one occasion.) With both IVF cycles the same stim meds were utilized. Lupron 10 units (40mcg/0.1ml) twice daily for 2 days followed by Gonal-F 300 units twice daily with Luveris 75 units in the evening (while continuing the lupron) for about 1 week untill enough follicles were of appropriate size by ultrasound monitering. (I was prescribed ovidrel as well.) I began progesterone 50mg IM on the evening after egg retrieval both times. I was given a short course of doxycycline with both attempts. I was prescribed a short course of steroids both attempts - methylpred 4mg tid for 3 days beginning post retrieval. I was told to take a baby asprin daily after egg retireval with both attempts. With the first attempt 3 high quality embryos were transferred on day 3 and ICSI was used. No pregnancy. With the second attempt the same basic protocl was utilized with the addition of viagra suppositories 25 mg every 6 hours for 10 days during stim and I had a spontaneous cycle where 2 endometrial biopsies were performed for promotion of a more hospitable endometrial lining. He used estrace to suppress me during the latter half of my spontaneous cycle with the second IVF just prior to stim. I had a weak positive pregnancy test 2 weeks post egg retrieval- hcg of 29. The level did initially climb almost doubling every 2 days briefly - I had a miscarriage 1 week after my initial weak positive pregnancy test. With the second attempt I had 4 high quality embryos transferred on day 3. I did not have any embryos to freeze with either attempt. 8 and 6 eggs were retrieved with my cycles respectively. (Some eggs were immature and some did not fertilize properly and some just were not high quality embryos that had to be discarded.) I wonder about your thoughts on intralipids for me as well as other stim protocols that might produce more mature eggs. Would you think that more immunologic factors should be investigated at this point?

    Please advise.
    Thanks. Kay
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  2. Dear Kay,

    Sorry for the delay in responding.

    I would respectfully point out that in my opinion microflare protocols are suboptimal for women with diminished ovarian reserve (DOR). Please read my article that deals with "IVF ovarian stimulation: An individualized aproach" ..elsewhere on this blog. What you need is an agressive agonist antagonist conversion protocol-A/ACP (to be found in an article I wrote for this blog, elsewhere).

    Also IUI ( proudly a procedure that I introduced into the field in the early 80's) is relatively contraindicated in cases of DOR...see my article on IUI elsewhere in this blog.

    You certainly need IVF with a very customized protocol of stimulation. ...and you need it soon.

    I look forward to our telephone consultation when we can explore your issues in detail.

    Geoff Sher
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  3. Dr. Sher,

    I'm looking for a professional opinion in my case. My husband and I have been TTC for 3+ years. We are both 27. We have been diagnosed as unexplained infertility.

    Our first IVF cycle resulted in 12 eggs, 9 of which fertilized, and only 2 made it to 8-cell embryos that were transferred on day 3. The remaining embryos stalled and were unable to be frozen. The cycle resulted in BFN.

    Our second IVF cycle resulted in 14 eggs, 12 of which fertilized, and only 2 made it to blastocyst and were transferred on day 5. Again, the remaining fertilized embryos stalled and were unable to be frozen. The cycle resulted in BFP but I just miscarried at 7 weeks, the baby stopped growing at 6 weeks.

    My question is regarding the possibility of a genetic issue or incompatibility between my eggs and my husband's sperm that results in slow growing or poor quality embryos. Given the fact that out of 21 fertilized eggs only 4 have gone on to be viable embryos, could that lead one to believe something more series is going on genetically?

    My RE said it is impossible to answer this question and I am looking for a second opinion.

    Thank you for your time.

    Brittney
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  4. First off...This is highly unlikely to be an inherent egg defect. You are simply too young for this explanation. Unless there is significantly abnormal sperm, the most likely explanation is the protocol of ovarian stimulation used.

    Please see elsewhere on this site, an article I posted on November 22nd 2010 entitled "An Individualized Approach to Ovarian Stimulation...".

    Feel free to call and discuss your case with me.

    Geoff Sher
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  5. Dear Dr. Sher,
    I conceived and gave birth to one child naturally at age 33. At 35, I conceived easily again and had a miscarriage at six weeks (blighted ovum). I tried for 7 months on my own and failed to get pregnant. We moved on to IVF, as I am now 36.5 The first cycle resulted in a chemical pregnancy. I have 4 endomitriomas, 3 uterine fibroids, a cervix that is difficult to get past, due to scarring from my c-section, and typically 3 days of spotting before my period, and 9 days after. Is this a hopeless situation? Is there anything that can be done to help me?
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  6. The fact that you did conceive indicates that you do have a chance, However, you need to be evaluated properly first and then treated to eliminate the reasons for what sound to me to be implantation issues. Endometriomas need to be removed, any immunologic implantation problems associated with endometriosis need to be addressed and uterine fibroids that protrude into the uterine cavity should be removed.

    Might I recommend that you go to the home page on this site, find a "search bar" in the upper right hand column and type in the following subjects into the bar and it will take you to all the relevant articles I posted there.

    1.Endometriosis"
    2. Uterine Fibroids"
    3. An Individualized Approach to Ovarian stimulation"
    4. Agonist/Antagonist Conversion Protocol”
    5. "Immunologic Implantation Dysfunction"

    When you have read these (and any others that might interest you) please consider calling 800-780-7437 or 702-699-7437 to set up a telephone consultation (which is free for those living in the U.S.A or Canada) with me so we might discuss your case in detail.

    Geoff Sher
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