Thursday, October 15, 2009

Ovarian Stimulation For IVF: High-Responders vs. Poor Responders

There is a growing body of evidence to suggest that over-stimulation of women who have normal or above normal ovarian reserve (i.e. normal and high responders to gonadotropin fertility drugs), might prejudice egg quality. As a point in fact…younger women who receive above average dosages of gonadotropins and over-respond by producing large numbers of follicles, tend to yield an inordinately high percentage of “immature” as well as chromosomally abnormal (aneuploid) eggs. Such eggs are incapable of making normal “competent” embryos.

It is unlikely that the gonadotropins directly act on the eggs to compromise them. It is more likely that in susceptible cases the “overstimulation “ of connective tissue surrounding follicles (i.e. stroma or theca) causes excessive androgen (male hormone) production. This, upon reaching the follicles in high concentrations, compromises egg development. It follows that in the interest of optimizing egg quality, it is advisable to avoid over-stimulating normal and high responders with gonadotropins.

When it comes to ovarian stimulation of poor responders, it is another matter altogether. Here, the existence of ovarian resistance to gonadotropins necessitates a more aggressive approach in order to try and maximize the number of developing follicles and eggs. At the same time there is a need to try and avoid excessive ovarian stromal/thecal activation. Since “poor responders” are women with diminished ovarian reserve who have an overgrowth of ovarian stroma/theca (i.e. stromal hyperplasia or hyperthecosis) they have a propensity to over-produce androgens in response to gonadotropins. The real challenge in such cases is to strike a balance between optimizing follicle and egg development while avoiding overstimulation of ovarian stroma/theca. To do this requires pituitary down-regulation with a birth control pill (often for 1-2 months) followed by the administration of an agonist (e.g. Lupron). In some cases, we first administer an estrogen (i.e., “estrogen priming”) for a week or longer before initiating ovarian stimulation using a high dosage of Follicle Stimulating Hormone (FSH). The BCP administration is done in an attempt to suppress elevated LH for long enough to effect shrinkage of ovarian stroma/theca and thereby reduce subsequent androgen production in response to gonadotropins.

There is nothing we can do (given current knowledge) to affect the quality of those eggs available for use in a particular ovarian cycle. They will have been genetically preselected and then have gone through an independent 4 month process of preparation. By the time the cycle starts, “the hand will have been shuffled and dealt” However, by individualizing (customizing) the protocol of ovarian stimulation, it is possible to influence the ovarian hormonal environment during the ovarian stimulation cycle in the hope of protecting the eggs during stimulation.

Given the large number of uncontrollable variables that are operative in any IVF cycle and the absolute inability to keep them all constant while measuring variations in just one, is why randomized controlled ("gold standard") studies are virtually impossible to conduct satisfactorily in IVF. It also explains why developments involving the entire field of IVF are generally based on the results of longitudinal studies (trial and error).

6 comments:

  1. Hi Dr. Sher. I'm hoping you can help me. I just turned 28 and was told I have high fsh. I only had it tested once and it came back at 27. The thing that bothers me the most was our RE immediately said donor eggs & adoption. He wasn't willing to work with me. Our second opinion appointment with another doctor went slightly better, but he still wasn't hopeful. He did an ultrasound of my ovaries to check things out. Said my uterus and lining looked excellent. He saw that my right ovary was small in volume, but to his surprise my left ovary looked great and actually had 4 follicles.

    Is there something to help me? RE #2 said possible IUI with injectables, but wasn't 100% I thought IVF was better for women with high fsh??

    Can you please give me some more information and hope??
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  2. Respectfully, in my view IUI is not the right aproach.The success rate is too low nad you are about to run out of time. You need IVF ASAP and with what refer to as an agonist/antagonist conversion protocol with estrogen priming (LA10-E2V). Read up on this elsewhere on this blog. You mkight not respond sufficiently but it is your BEST hope. If you don't respond to this protocol you will need donor egg. Don't expect to produce many follicles, but because you are young, and aside from the protocol of ovarian stimulation used, age is the main determinant of egg/embryo quality, you might have a chance...but you won't get there with IUI.

    Feel free to set up a free medical telephone consultation to discuss this with me. Just click on to the appropraiter link at the top right hand corner of this page.

    Geoff Sher
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  3. Dr. Sher,
    I have one more question. Another hormone level just came back high. 17 oh progesterone? I've never heard of this before. What does it do? What are the causes? Is it treatable? I know it can also be a cause of infertility, but was hoping you could tell me more.
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  4. hi
    thank you very much for your detailed writings
    my wife is 32 year old and we tried 4 time IVF
    first 2 ivf tries were 4 years ago and long time agonist step down protocol they use.third time they tried antagonist protocol.this time it is 4th and doctor tried low dose long protocol
    all ivf tries happened as : low quality embryos
    and I am 33 years old male and I have very severe olygospermia and we have male factor
    my wife is high responder and always over than 15 eggs are happening..third try (antagonist cycle ) was 34 eggs.last was 16
    here is our question
    we want to try one more
    what is your suggest ?
    antagonist or agonist ?
    long or short protocol ?
    what should be the dose of FSH analogues ? ( 75 U ? 100 U ? 150 U =)
    should we use oral contraceptives before cyclus ?
    how can we stop high responding ?
    our E2 levels always higher than 3500 Iu on tenth day after mens
    we have never faced early OHSS
    and we appreciate what you answer
    regards
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  5. There nare 2 issues nto be considered here. The first is the protocol of ovarian stimulation needs adjustment to try and avoid egg quality issues and the second is your husband's sperm function. This needs to be carefully evaluated and, if possible improved. While helpful, the information provided is insufficient to base advice on. To address these requires that we communicate by way of consultation.

    Geoff Sher
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  6. Dear Dr. Sher,

    I am 34 year old, my husband is 37. We just finished the second IVF (after 2 IUIs), which failed. We know of a male factor infertility (low count, low motility, and fragmented), but now we are told we need better eggs. First IVF - 6 eggs, 5 matured, transfer of all 3 fertilized (all grade B, two 8-cell and one 7-cell). Second IVF - 9 eggs, transfer of all 3 fertilized (2 grade A 8-cell and one grade B 6-cell). We now also learned of an ovarian resistance so next cycle will be without the lupron and 325 units Gonal-F (last time 725 units but with lupron). Any suggestions?
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